Hollywoodtown vs Comicbookville
What do the fans want?
Comic book fans are finally getting what they always wanted from Hollywood "accurate costumes" – Screenrant MSN
FEBRUARY 2025
The article makes a statement that is true, which is that between the coming Fantastic Four film and the last Deadppol and Wolverine movie, we're getting comic book accurate costuming. As long as it looks good, thats a kind of "win" for comic books.
But what do comic book fans really want from Hollywood in regard to comic book movies? I want them to pay the comic book people (writers, artists, letterers and colorists! And editors!) for what they've been lifting out of comics to use in their movies. There's a kind of "sympathy payment" made to comic book oldtimers to compensate them for all the material they're written (for Marvel and DC, generally) that gets grabbed out of old stories and put into these films.
I would go further and say that many of these films are a pastiche and collage of comic book stories. We're getting the phenomenon of Hollywood writers pulling plot and dialogue from comic book scripts and putting it into Hollywood movie scripts, but while they get the writing credit and a Hollywood-level payment, the original writers are religated into a "thank you" slot on the end credits that scrolls past somewhere after a listing for the catering service that fed the crew on the movie shoot.
There are exceptions, and Marvel Studios reportedly offers a flat fee of around $5,000 to comic creators whose work is prominently featured in a film, along with an invitation to the movie premiere. I asked Chat GPT a question in regards to this situation, and it said "...while Hollywood adaptations can bring immense fame to comic book characters, the financial rewards for the writers and artists who created them are generally poor."
Hollywoodtown vs Comicbookville
Len Wein and Wolverine
From a Nerdrotic YouTube Video online (comments from about the 6:35 mark in the video timeline) February 2025
"[I was at Comic Con and met Comic Book Writer] Len Wein, he died in just a couple of months. But, he was there dying, literally dying at Comic Con, signing stuff and being just the pure gentleman. He was there with his son, right, and, um, you know ... my son's named Logan, okay, right, after Logan [Wolverine] so I wanted him to meet Len. We spent time with him, he was really freaking cool, and I chatted with his son a little bit. And, I'm like, did they, I mean, I don't want to pry or anything, but have they done anything for you?"
"And he's all, "no," and I guess Hugh Jackman did, so, props to Hugh Jackman. But, uh, Disney Marvel made, you know, and Fox made billions off this guy [and] gave him jack while he was dying. ... you know so in this new authentic era if corporations want to look less soulless, I mean, just ... treat people like humans. I'm no Union dude or anything but like there's nothing wrong with taking care of your people, uh, and especially taking care of somebody who's making you till the end of time hundreds of millions and billions of dollars, there's nothing wrong with being human."
Len Wein and Roy Thomas and Wolverine's creation
AI generated images from ChatGPT and Grok. The idea was Hollywood hipster scriptwriter enjoying high earnings. ChatGPT made it pretty funny, but Grok made it more simple and also funny (car billowing paper money into the air behind a convertible).
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Original Page Feb 13, 2025